tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post3524425898388167797..comments2023-05-13T04:11:16.518-04:00Comments on buzoncrime: Crime and Security Update for Passoverbuzoncrimehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-46519330670437160742008-04-29T15:00:00.000-04:002008-04-29T15:00:00.000-04:00I guess the big fight of the week was over at the ...I guess the big fight of the week was over at the Haven Place strip joint on the East Side.<BR/><BR/>Buz is still trying to confirm the rumor that the Chosen Sons, M.C. have taken up Dr. Alonso's call for volunteerism--and will be providing security at the Gay Street Juvenile "Justice" center. The sticking point is their desire to carry their brass knuckles inside because of the danger from the young offenders there.buzoncrimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-76448874843337296592008-04-29T08:27:00.000-04:002008-04-29T08:27:00.000-04:00In Virginia you can open carry, and I think you do...In Virginia you can open carry, and I think you don't even need a permit for that.ppatinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016738612222736798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-34384034516328201962008-04-29T07:42:00.000-04:002008-04-29T07:42:00.000-04:00Really, I don't want permission to conceal anythin...Really, I don't want permission to conceal anything -- I'd like permission to walk down the street carrying a loaded shotgun.<BR/><BR/>But that probably wouldn't end well, so alas...<BR/><BR/>Still no street fights, Buz. Although I did witness some rather deplorable behavior by a crowd of drunk young teenagers leaving a restaurant down the street. Hm.Carol Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07420308189076917316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-50843895082995988682008-04-25T12:07:00.000-04:002008-04-25T12:07:00.000-04:00As I said, I'm fully aware that CC permits are no ...As I said, I'm fully aware that CC permits are no solution to crime. I also think that if the government is going to prevent people from carrying concealed firearms it should have a valid reason for doing so. Even if the benefits of CC permits are minimal they don't seem to do any harm, and IMO the government shouldn't be restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens unless there's legitimate evidence that those restrictions protect public safety.ppatinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016738612222736798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-39749924898707583332008-04-25T11:39:00.000-04:002008-04-25T11:39:00.000-04:00Ok---interesting, but the cited journal article is...Ok---interesting, but the cited journal article is more than 10 years old. I wonder if anything more recent/relevant is out there.<BR/><BR/>Also, it doesn't really change my views very much as a security consultant, based on the factors in my earlier comments. And, let's face it, most common victims of crime just aren't going to carry a gun anyway.<BR/><BR/>Florida has a very different political, social, and economic climate than Maryland. So, it is interesting, and I agree on a gut level, but just wouldn't recommend it to anybody else. Most thugs are basically cowards. However, if you have a need, and feel more protected, go for the handgun permit.buzoncrimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-39720423607502698832008-04-25T10:55:00.000-04:002008-04-25T10:55:00.000-04:00I understand that concealed carry is no magical so...I understand that concealed carry is no magical solution for street crime, and I don't mean to pretend that it is. I do think that there's some pretty solid real life evidence that it has some beneficial effects though. <BR/><BR/>Take a look at Florida. I believe they were one of the first states, if not the first, to liberalize their concealed carry laws in the late 1980s. After CC was legalized violent crime rose at a lower rate than the national average, and the huge numbers of shootings of innocent bystanders that many predicted simply didn't happen. <BR/><BR/>I did some digging around, and <A HREF="http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Espohl1.htm" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is the source for my claims about Florida. The paper's author has an obvious bias, but his information seems solid. <BR/><BR/>"Since Florida has been the nation's leader in licensing honest citizens to carry concealed weapons, examining Florida's experience is important to understanding the effects of concealed carry. In 1987, when Florida adopted its current concealed-weapons law, Florida's homicide rate was 11.4 persons per 100,000. In 1993, Florida's homicide rate declined to 8.7 persons per 100,000.[107] During this same period, the national homicide rate increased from 8.2 to 9.3 persons per 100,000.[108] Thus, allowing honest citizens to carry concealed weapons saves lives. During the same period (1987-93), the incidence of rape went up 14.4% while in Florida the rate went up only 2.9% and started declining in 1993.[109] Although Florida's rape rate went up somewhat, Florida women avoided the skyrocketing rape rates that the rest of the country experienced. Allowing honest women to carry concealed weapons thus prevents rapes.<BR/><BR/>Much has been made of a recent string of murders of foreign tourists in Florida. The reason Florida's crooks have been targeting foreigners is illuminating:<BR/><BR/> TV 'news magazine' programs visited juvenile detention facilities in south Florida to find out why violent juvenile predators were targeting foreign tourists. . . . With total candor, the jailed juveniles said they knew that tourists didn't have guns. Since Florida allows law-abiding people to carry guns, these young criminals were afraid to attack residents. Tourists are considered easy marks . . . they are unarmed and defenseless. . . .<BR/><BR/>From the mouths of these young criminals came the strongest reason for allowing law-abiding people to carry firearms-protection. These juveniles may be criminals but they're not stupid-they don't want to be shot and so they avoid people who may be armed and might defend themselves.[110] As another example of how an armed citizenry deters crime, the Orlando, Florida Police Department trained over 6,000 women in the use of handguns in 1966, after a series [Page 166] of brutal rapes.[111] The number of rapes in Orlando declined more than 80% in 1967.[112]"ppatinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016738612222736798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-72459515855223467662008-04-25T10:45:00.000-04:002008-04-25T10:45:00.000-04:00Maryland already has a handgun permit law, and a l...Maryland already has a handgun permit law, and a lot of people have them; however, they are hard to get.<BR/><BR/>Buz objects to the idea of carrying guns around because of the potential liabilities to the carrier, especially if he/she uses it--or tries to use it.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, we all wish Bernie Goetz was around when we need him, but the reality is that criminals generally choose their victims with all the odds in their favor: women, old ladies, single people on the street at night, several suspects to one victim, etc. And they almost always use the element of surprise with accompanying threats and profanity to shock victims into compliance. Unless you're going to profile and stick your hand in your pocket on your piece as potential thuggies approach, chances are: a.) they're not going to mess with you anyway or b.) they're gonna get the jump on you.<BR/><BR/>Unless the facts are clearly in your favor, you run the risk of getting arrested and prosecuted (certainly if your carrying illegally), or being sued by the "victim" for unnecessary force and the subsequent injuries. And of course, there's always the risk of hitting innocent people. Further, we have to just look at the Norman Stamp fiasco to see what can happen in chaotic street action.<BR/>Thus, you need to remember: the thugs have nothing to lose carrying and shooting; they lead miserable lives anyway and don't care. A decent law-abiding family and members thereof have everything to lose. I'm all for having a gun in your house if you don't have kids, but it's pretty risky carrying one and intending to use it on the street, much as Mary Ann Willin's actions a few years ago cheer us.buzoncrimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-3421271581991288532008-04-25T08:59:00.000-04:002008-04-25T08:59:00.000-04:00"I don't think a lot of people are into cc, just p..."I don't think a lot of people are into cc, just ppatin! i think it's a very bad idea, myself."<BR/><BR/>Take a look at the state's where CCW has been implemented. Despite all the hysterical predictions of the anti-gun crowd, CC permit holders aren't dropping innocent bystanders left and right. In fact, bad shootings by them are essentially unheard of. Hell, in Vermont you don't even need a permit as long as you're not a felon, and how many crazy shootings do you hear about there? As usual it's criminals with guns who're causing the problems, and it's not like they give a shit whether concealed carry is legal or not.ppatinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016738612222736798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-3603458760011693212008-04-24T13:42:00.000-04:002008-04-24T13:42:00.000-04:00I don't think a lot of people are into cc, just pp...I don't think a lot of people are into cc, just ppatin! i think it's a very bad idea, myself.Maurice Bradburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143777490997450728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-17799072456639628142008-04-21T13:46:00.000-04:002008-04-21T13:46:00.000-04:00Carol: as a crime victim, you aare entitled to one...Carol: as a crime victim, you aare entitled to one tidbit of a security tip from Buz in commemoration of Victim of Crime week (last week). You may email me directly at jerry@buzoncrime.com. Or simply ask you tidbit question on this blog.buzoncrimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-46243902934274195142008-04-21T11:06:00.000-04:002008-04-21T11:06:00.000-04:00I believe that! I couldn't believe that guy from ...I believe that! I couldn't believe that guy from California who said he thought that moving to Baltimore would be boring. <BR/><BR/>By the way, they're having a Tour dem Parks bike ride beginning in Carroll Park on June 8th. Even Buz thinks that would be a good time to explore the bike trail, Baltiless Blog notwithstanding.buzoncrimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222344932427990980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-764429864871986236.post-56716251769138149132008-04-20T21:44:00.000-04:002008-04-20T21:44:00.000-04:00So far no street fights with Pratt Street, but I'l...So far no street fights with Pratt Street, but I'll definitely be on the lookout. Nothing like a good old fashioned street fight to keep you on your toes...!uCarol Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07420308189076917316noreply@blogger.com